This show is commercially available as "Winterland June 1977: The Complete Recordings "
Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
They Love Each Other
Looks Like Rain
The Music Never Stopped
Samson And Delilah
Help On The Way ->
Estimated Prophet ->
Saint Stephen ->
Not Fade Away ->
Saint Stephen ->
Terrapin Station ->
One More Saturday Night
To Lay me Down
(from 3/27/88 PCM FOB using Schoeps CMC34's)
JR Fishmans notes:
Last fall I noticed a copy going around on etree that was
inferior to the copy that Dougal generously gave me. The etree copy
had a thin, compressed FM sound to it.
I had a DAT of 6/9/77 for several years from a close friend and transferred this to CD.
This copy, though not pristine, is a substantial upgrade. It is from
a 1st gen reel, was transferred to PCM and then to DAT. I
transferred the DAT to CD using an Fostex D10 professional DAT recorder to an
hhb 800 professional stand-alone player. I did not do any editting (i.e. Cool Edit)
This copy has warmer and fuller 1977-esque sound than the etree version .
The quiter songs sound lovely !!!!
Buyer beware - there are some nicks and bruises on this recording -
- digital noise during Weir's "Just exactly right" schtick (pre Miss
- some reel degradation during Mississippi (but still listenable)
- minor digital noise @ the end of Deal
- some reel degradation in Jack Straw (I only heard a second or two)
- Overmodulation and distortion for the 1st 5 seconds of Estimated
May 26, 2011 Subject:
JG got confused & listened to the music play
GAMH's H-S-FT is pure bliss but this here is infernal, much like the Barton Hall Fire. Cant envision a better TMNS, either.
June 28, 2009 Subject:
Helluva first show
What is it with Mickey's monitor, anyway? I had the pleasure of working a club show with Mickey and Baba, in 1986 or '7. Guess which piece of equipment crapped out. Yup, Mickey's monitor. btw: you really DON'T want to hear Mickey trying to play Carlos' axe before the gig. Whoa, bad mojo.
Anyway, this show was the shiznick. Got high as a kite, barfed on someone, slept through part of the second set and generally had a good time. I think I remember some of it.
It's a crying shame about the fat man. He was Leonardo in a black T-shirt. Come to think of it, do you remember that Star Trek episode with the old immortal dude who had been Julius Caesar and Brahms and Leonardo da Vinci and Shakespeare, and a few others? I think he was Jerry, too, they just didn't know it at the time. Of course, that could be the tequila talking.
Oh yeah, about MH. The reason that drummers have a workingman's attitude is that you don't plug in a drum kit.
At the end of Funiculi, I half expected Velveeta boy to say "we are also available for weddings and bar mitzvahs". He can be funny, he just has a habit of walking into walls, jamwise. Oh well, he has put down a few tasty licks from time to time. (For example, check out his unique and original "rolling wheel" effect on the infamous Barton Fire.) It's just that it's not possible to look all that good when you got the bear twelve feet to your left, poking holes in the fabric of space-time.
January 16, 2009 Subject:
Quintessential 1977 show
This is one those quintessential 1977 shows. They hadn't pulled into some of their cocaine disco train station yet which seemed to have come around 1978 in my opinion. They have plenty of tunes that they had been honing for years with a little cheezy "Sunrise" thrown in to placate Donna. For my money this simply IS the best Help>slipknot>Franklins and I've compared it to the 1975 version that always gets top billing but I still take this one any day of the week.
November 1, 2008 Subject:
miller is the best But
I tell you this miller is the best but jay nice job on this one i dont think anyone notice that flat out balls playing in help > slipknot they dont miss a beat absolutly every note from Jerry and the band man i think this one my all time fav versions next to 1975 great american music hall ,i know there a few others that are top notch but man really listen to it loud
June 3, 2008 Subject:
I'll bite on this one
After a brief comparison of the Miller source and this one I have to agree this has a bit of the warmer "down comforter" feel one finds with most of the SBD reels from 77. Hard to say it but, for my tastes the Miller SBD offered here, albeit a bit brighter, does have more of a compressed FM sound to it that in the end makes it sound thinner, so I'm choosing this one over the Miller. No offense Charlie. I always appreciate your work.
btw Mr. Fishman 1988 Fillers have no place in the middle of a 1977 show. Maybe if you like to add them to B&P discs that's fine but there is absolutely no reason to include them on Archive uploads, my suggestion is refrain from this practice in the future.
Edit: Sorry, more notes after giving this a full listen: Many tracks are mislabeled, there is no Sunrise.
Nonetheless a great show, stands above most 77 shows and for that alone 5 Stars
favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite ( 7 reviews ) Source: Recording Info: Sbd -> Master Reel -> Dat -> Cd; Patch Source: AKG D224 -> Master Reel -> Reel -> DAT -> CD (shnid 26450); Transfer Info - Most Tracks: CD -> EAC -> Samplitude Profesional -> FLAC (shnid 28614); Transfer Info - d2t05: CD -> EAC -> Samplitude Profesional -> FLAC -> WAV -> Peak Dv4 -> WAV -> FLAC; Transfer Info - d3t02 and d3t07: CD -> EAC -> Samplitude Profesional -> FLAC -> WAV -> ProTools LE -> WAV -> FLAC; This is a partial upgrade to shnid 28614 (Charlie Miller's 2005 remaster) with three tracks repaired by Duane Day
favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite ( 2 reviews ) Source: 2 Source Matrix by Dusborne; Soundboard (shnid:90145) Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat (44.1k); Transfer Info: Dat (Sony R500) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude v7.02 Professional -> FLAC and Audience (shnid:107036) Analog Audience Source: FOB Master Cassettes (MAC); Medium Stock Brands: MAC = 2 x Maxell UD C120; Analog